Heather Cox Richardson
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first heard Jul 2026
last heard 20 Jul
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The Best People with Nicolle Wallace · Heather Cox Richardson on America’s Vibe Shift · 20 Jul 2026
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That's, I think, what I find the most heartbreaking because we can claw back a lot of what this administration has done, but you can't claw back everything.
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And some of what they are doing is irretrievable.
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And a piece about the lands that I did not put in the piece you're referring to...
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People tend to forget that during his confirmation hearings, Doug Burgum, who is now the Secretary of the Interior, kept talking about the national debt and how people keep looking at the national debt, but that's only one half of the ledger.
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So the other half of the ledger are all our untouched public lands.
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And that those can be used to raise money to cover the national debt.
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And many of the fights over drilling in the West are really fights over the fact that a lot of the state budgets of the Western states are...
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underwritten, essentially, by fees over drilling in those lands.
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And if you take that land out of drilling, you hurt the bottom line of those state budgets.
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And because of the capital-intense industries in those states, what you're saying is it would cost...
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people who have a lot of money and corporations in those states, a lot of tax dollars.
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And I think people miss that connection.
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But when I think about the fact that we are dramatically cutting taxes for the wealthy and corporations through measures like the One Big Beautiful Bill Act of last July, through those Trump tax cuts, and then also through the George W. Bush tax cuts,
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When I think of that and think that essentially they're saying, let's take Americans' birthright, you know, let's take the lands from indigenous people and turn them into cash so that some rich people don't have to pay taxes.
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I just think that that
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I mean, maybe it's a metaphor for the entire idea that they're taking our science and research base that we have built since World War II, the finest in the world, and turning that into cash for rich people's pockets.
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And I look at that and it just seems just sort of the almost Shakespearean or even biblical, the idea of selling your birthright for a mess of pottage.
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And it breaks my heart.
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But that's what we're doing here is trying to make people understand that once that stuff is gone, some of it can never be found again.
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So what's really interesting about that, one of the things that you see in the 1950s in the United States is the argument from somebody like William F. Buckley Jr., who in 1951 wrote a book called God and Man at Yale, in which he tried to argue that Yale,
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