Hendrik “Henk” Alma

And they need to transform that knowledge to the new situation till they become the old fossils.

We are not good at that.

There is hardly any education for project logistics.

You learn the job, right, by doing it, by doing so.

And I had to do the same day and night and whatever.

But it helped me a lot.

It brought me to high positions, actually, and really interesting adventures.

But we need to get the younger generation started up.

Diversity, yeah, well, I think I gave a little hint there as well earlier in my cooking event when you asked about my vacation.

Yeah, I think that that is something...

I'm not, no, I'm actually in a business, I'm openly gay, right?

And actually, this is the first time I'm announcing that, so you have a little scoop there.

But I never made a secret about it, and also not within the organizations I've worked for.

I made it very, very clear.

I really never had really problems with it.

Yeah, of course, you've got your occasional idiot you meet with all kinds of slurs and people threatening.

And I also see, like, OK, we... And then we go back to what's happening in America.

The movement, the anti-LGBTQ movement is under attack, actually.

We see those vibes...

going across the world where in certain countries, certain individuals also feel privileged.