Hilary Duff

And you're like, this actually wasn't my job in the first place.

I think it was really hard for them to like be honest with each other.

And there was a lot of like fighting and it wasn't not like they could hang out and be in the same room.

And so when it came for me getting divorced, I was like, I'm not going to have that.

We're going to like do holidays together as much as we can.

And not that it was always easy, but it felt way easier than the alternative.

Yeah.

You know?

So, yeah, I don't...

I don't my dad and I don't really have much of a relationship and we don't speak very often.

It's hard because I think there's not a whole bunch of answers and it's you kind of hear one side and then try to take from it what you believe.

And then, you know, the same on the other.

And I it's really it's really hard.

I think if a family breaks apart very dramatically, it's hard to find your way back sometimes.

And some people want to and some people don't.

I do.

I think it's a little bit like muscle memory where you lean on it and then you have to remember some of the therapy or wherever you find your solace.

Like you have to keep pushing those good habits or good things to say to yourself to cope and make different choices.

Don't tell me what song it's from.

Okay.