Hilary Duff

People don't need too much explaining on that one.

I think it's definitely a role that I play in my life.

And Matt had this amazing experience.

idea for the song we we started playing tennis together and i think that it was definitely inspired by just like the game of tennis and kind of applying it to a relationship a romantic relationship that's probably not going to work out expand on that further with a tennis analogy for me

The chorus is, if it ain't the weather for tennis, then I guess we can argue until dinner time.

So it's just kind of about a game being played and a cycle that is constantly like repeating.

Yeah.

Right before we started writing the record together, maybe a year before that.

Uh, I was like, if we're going to last the long haul, we need sport.

We need to like learn how to play a sport together.

And so we picked up tennis and I also forced him to learn how to ski, which is like one of his favorite things to do now.

And we love to ski.

But, um, I think that, I think the chorus was inspired for him because we had started playing the game of tennis.

My parents divorced when I was around 18.

And I feel like that was a really hard time.

because I was like kind of an adult.

And then you're like, did they just stay together to get us to this point?

And now you have guilt that they were like unhappy or just like so many different things.

What did that feel like?

Giving that up, making the choice to be like, I'm not doing that anymore.