Howie

But more than that, he is a father of a big brood.

And these days, on Fox Footy and on SEN on the Wireless, a multimedia megastar.

Yeah, thanks, Howie.

Yeah, not quite.

We're not quite in that realm for all aspects, to be honest.

We were just outside and you asked me how long the show's been going.

I said, we've been going 10 years.

You said, oh, you're out, I guess.

That's why you need to be on.

I said, no, I'll tell you the reason on the show why I wanted you on.

You were writing articles in the paper last year in the Herald Sun.

Yeah, yeah.

And I loved the stories that you would tie in that had gone over –

30-plus years of football to the modern game.

So if you were talking about Nick Dacos, for example, you had an example of playing with Anthony Rock in a certain situation, and I just thought you had the ability to tell these wonderful stories in print, and I thought he must have so many wonderful stories.

Yeah, good ghostwriter, Mark Duffield.

You should have got him on, mate.

You pulled the wrong rein.

But no, I got drafted when I was 17.

And last year was the first year out of the AFL club land.