Howie

I'm a neutral tonight.

I'm not going for anyone.

Neutral.

Sit on the fence.

Sit on the fence.

Before we get into hoops, et cetera, your footy career, who were you playing with?

Were you playing APS for the St.

Kebs, or who were you playing footy with?

We'll get into it, but I reckon your financial planner would be reasonably happy with the decision you made.

So what position did you play?

Were you a spring heel Ruckman or a forward?

And then I want you to compare yourself to a current player as a footballer.

Well, get through your journey, mate.

But as you sit here, you are playing for probably the most storied basketball franchise in the history of the game, the Chicago Bulls.

You are, as we're about to do this, by the time it goes out, you will have launched your own shoe with Puma.

You're a global brand.

As a kid from Melbourne, do you ever just sort of wake up in the morning and pinch yourself?

And it's due to your talent and your hard work.

But do you ever sort of pinch yourself and think, this is just out of this world?

I want to talk to you about the grind of it, the 82 games, as well as the glamour.