Howie

Of course you wouldn't.

I thought it was different.

So, yeah, so a bit of right place, right time.

But, yeah, to be in the industry for 30-plus years, it's been a great ride.

I had the pleasure of working for two years with Ross Lyon when he was out of coaching on the wireless here at Triple L. And I think he gave us an insight into the pressures of coaching and dealing with the media.

And I watch him now in press conferences and I think, oh, he's picked that up from working in the media.

Well, why did he go back?

I don't know.

Probably a million dollars is why he went back.

The obvious question will come with, are you going to go back?

But how are you finding the media?

Because you are...

You were lionized when you were a premiership coach and you were torn down when things weren't going at the Eagles in a media –

cycle that we can get to.

But how are you finding on the other side of the fence, mate?

And you're doing a wonderful job, so congratulations.

Yeah, I'm just starting.

I feel like a rookie again.

So that's a good feeling.

The sense of loss once you leave a job like senior coach, it's a bit like when you get delisted or you retire as a player.