Ivan Barabanov

And these people end up sending me postcards being so grateful because they have the life that they dreamed with their dog.

Fantastic.

I know, I know.

There is no answer to this.

We have it.

We that's kind of we do this all the time.

And I will send you some some of those things.

A lot of people.

I think I think these conversations are very, very interesting to people.

And I hope

promise you that it's not going to be only IGP people either, you know, um, which is, which is very cool to switch the conversation because I know we kind of don't want to drain it to this because there is no answer to that.

Right.

What let's talk a little bit about your work, especially the selection evaluation of working military dogs.

And this personally is of great interest to me because I've been breeding dogs since, shit, 1989.

I don't even want to say the years because it's like, as you said, we are dinosaurs.

Genetics and breeding selection is one of my obsessions.

And so is yours.

And I'm very, very interested to see and to hear you

kind of breaking down the program.

Because I, of course, I watch all the cool moments of the tests, but I know that there is more to it.