Ivan Barabanov

And how does typically a dog comes into the program, how it gets selected, what do you guys look for?

as a raw material, like this is super interesting stuff.

It's a never-ending story, absolutely.

Open book, yes.

They're not selling dogs to... No, so they are not trained.

That's what everybody loves that one.

It's

It always goes viral on social media.

Trainability.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So if you, like for the people that listen, and of course I'm selfish here,

During the 40 minutes, if you have to break down the most important traits, the most important characteristic that you want to see in a dog, what would those be?

Yes, very true.

Because environmental sensitivity, it's highly generic and it suppresses function.

Yeah, yeah.

I love IGP.

Belgian Ring is probably the sport that will expose environmental instability the best of all sports.

Yes, it's very small and it's actually even smaller today than even 10 years ago, unfortunately.

Yeah.

What about going, like I just mentioned Belgian ring and I still remember me and it was a big, big lesson for me when I,