Ivan Barabanov

I think we got addicted whenever that happened.

It's a good thing.

Let me go a little bit deeper with the coaching.

How does the

Because, I mean, again, you're like one of the most highly regarded judges.

You've judged any world championship possible, few of them, few times.

I don't know how many times altogether you've judged world championships, but you've judged national championships probably anywhere in the world.

I remember when Carlos Rojas did that,

money championship back.

Masters.

Yes.

I don't know if you saw the note, but I think they're planning on making one again.

So that will be interesting.

Okay.

So when you have this kind of incredible amount of experience in judging, how does that help you coach the people?

Because there are coaches, but there are coaches that understand the game.

And that's a game changer, in my opinion.

How much do you spend time with the people that you train to actually really make them understand how to fight for points or where does the judging come in place when you coach?

Good presentation.

Yeah.