Ivan Barabanov

He was a world champion with his dog, Rosso, the same year when I was world champion with my dog, Kenny.

Just weird coincidence, but that's how the dog sport goes.

he is in the military in sweden he does very cool stuff for quite some time now and this is evaluating dogs and selecting dogs for the army so thank you i know we tried to get this going and here we are talking and i know that i have so many places that we want to go to where do you want to go first

Like I, one thing that I admire for you is besides everything else that you're doing, something that I didn't mention in the intro, like you excite people, you also confront people, but you built a very interesting

community around you, and you're helping people to really reach the highest possible level that they can possibly reach with whatever the dog is, including Natalie winning a world championship last year.

And I kind of want to start there probably because you cannot do this without having the passion.

You cannot do this

without having the patience.

It's not an easy thing to coach people, and especially in our sport when coaching is one thing, but then the stars need to line up that day too.

And then how you handle and how you teach your

trainers to handle the success and the failures.

Tell me a little bit about this, because it's really special what you're doing there, I think.

Yeah, there will be sacrifices and choices.

There is no question you have to make.

Yeah, there is that pressure that is there, you know.

Wow, yeah, I never thought of that.

And you know the nerves.

And I get goosebumps just fuck.

Yes.

As you said, there is this addiction.