Jack Barsky

Yeah.

Well, I think that there's a great appreciation creatively and artistically for so much of what was coming out of the Soviet Union at that time.

So let's transition from some of these cultural considerations into you specifically.

You're sort of working your way through school.

At what point does, you know, an actual spy appear?

life start to coalesce for you?

Yeah, that took a while.

So elementary school, I was just playing along, you know, I didn't care much.

And in high school, I was still playing around, you know, but I became a little more ambitious and I managed to have nothing but A's on my last report card.

And so that, that, that allowed me to pretty much have my pick what university to go to.

I aced university as well, but here's a big, but it's not because I was the smartest guy because I was clever.

There were a couple of guys, at least they were smarter than me, but, but they didn't know how to manipulate.

Yeah.

Okay.

Interesting.

So you're kind of a,

It's not just your intellect, it's sort of your savvy.

Exactly.

Sort of street smarts.

At one point in my third year, there was a national scholarship.