Jacob Saffel

But something that he does mention, and I think it's really important to clarify, in earlier episodes when we go through things like Melnoff's testimony and how that kind of developed, I think it's very important to recognize what we find out about Melnoff in this episode, which is that this guy –

really put himself in financial jeopardy contributing to this case and finding these people.

So if there was ever really any question about his integrity or how invested or what his motives may be, I feel like this puts it to bed because this guy is not going to voluntarily put himself in that situation and invest so much in something there wasn't

that he wasn't connected to and he could be swayed.

Does that make sense?

Right.

Well, it's, you know, I just felt like it was really easy to coming out of those earlier episodes to, you know, low hanging fruit would be to question their integrity.

And I think it's very important that we continue to hammer that home that that's not that's not how these guys were.

That's not who they were by multiple accounts.

But I think that really is put on display there.

You know, Jason talks about the weather conditions at the time.

At the time of the searches in this area.

So talk to me about that a little bit.

So it's not just that they were searching through this thick bush and and just kind of the natural state of the area.

It was also not great weather conditions at the time, which just added more issues.

Right.

And he brings up a really interesting mechanic of, of searches, which is the concept of a decision point, um, which only, you know, further, you know, you know, it increases your, if you thought that searches were simple, if we haven't said it enough, they're just not right.

But the concept of a decision point where it's basically if they're retracing these people's steps, uh,

And they hit places where like, OK, well, they could have done this or they could have done that, depending on what decision they made, which, OK, if I'm searching now, I've got another option to have to consider and to cover.

Right.