Jacob Saffel

And so in these areas, I mean, do you see that the concept of a decision point coming up quite a bit, especially when they're searching the bush like this?

Yeah.

And it further solidifies the idea that just because, you know, we've talked about the massive effort that went into finding these people just because it didn't come up with everything that it could have or maybe things were missed doesn't.

suggest that anything was done incorrectly or anything was done you know in a half-assed manner this is just the nature of the beast man and and you know it can only be so perfect um another location you go to in this episode is uh where uh urban's body was found um really really enlightening situation there um you know and the first thing that comes up is is uh

It seemed like there wasn't a whole lot of effort behind actually hiding the body.

It sounded like that's what they seemed to suggest.

He was just kind of like half-assed, just kind of thrown out there.

They may have put a limb on top of him, maybe.

What does that suggest to you from the outside looking in?

Does that suggest something like maybe he was done in haste?

What does that suggest to you?

I think this episode really culminates in a beautiful moment here at the end because as you're talking about, it's easy to forget the details of how these dominoes really fell and what that experience must have been for these people.

So you end this episode in a beautiful way where you're able to locate the memorial stone and you're able to take a minute there.

And you talked about it a little bit on the podcast, but what was that experience like?

It seemed like an emotional one.

Um, yeah, I think it served as a, it served as a great kind of conclusion to part one of this, of that season.

Cause you, you did a really good job of kind of breaking that up.

You know, this does conclude part one in that, okay, we have the background now we've really dug into that.

And, and you, you, um, you know, you deem the next part, the hunt, um,

Right.