Jacob Saffle

He just found the car and then broke into the car, right?

Got it.

Yeah.

So that's how we ended up with some of the, some of their positions and got it, got it.

Yeah.

So, you know, he finds the car and this is really where his whole defense hinges right here with the car.

Well, I was just walking down that road, down the car.

That's how I've got this stuff.

You know, and I think we might get into it more in episodes that are coming, but yeah,

he changes his story as he goes along right like he initially says one thing um no he didn't know anything about it and then as he realizes the police have more then he sort of starts to come clean you know first of all he says he finds that finds a box of their stuff at uh boone's flat campground which is in a karinga valley which is a different spot in thames then he changes changes his story and i believe we'll get into that more in the coming episodes

Um, but yeah, I, I just, um, I thought it was just interesting listening back to everything about that car and breaking into it.

And to me, it just seemed required a lot of things to, um,

give him the benefit of doubt, give him the benefit of the doubt and quite a few areas in order for, to accept his story being true, that there were a spare set of keys when there was no known spare set of keys.

And his only defense was that, um, that apparently there had been a small crack in the original key, the previous owner had said, so it could be possible that they got another set to replace, you know, to, to replace this.

Um,

Yeah, the window being down when the witnesses didn't describe the window being down, the wire.

And then as well, it's a small point, but he says that he threw the wire right into the wire he used.

He says he threw it into the bush.

and uh described it as not far he's just throwing it over the first few trees into the bush and of course that wire was never found um now it is thick down there in that area of bush i was thinking about this when i was on my way back yesterday so you could imagine it maybe not being found but

you know, I'm sure that they had, I'm aware that they had a good look for it.