Jacob Saffle

with that element there over decades, man, you bit off a lot with this one.

Obviously, you found a lot of success and you've done a lot with it.

But yeah, so it was really exciting to be able to dive back in, long story short.

But I will say from the very beginning, these are two people that are easily to get invested in, Heidi and Urban.

I think it's also interesting that

Have you done another season where the victims are foreign?

No, no, no, no.

This is the only one.

So my heart really goes out to them in this regard because these aren't just missing people.

These are missing people in a place that they didn't know.

You know, and so it adds that that emotional layer to it to where the word lost or missing has a lot more weight and a lot more meaning to it.

So but anyway, right out of the gate, you know, I think it was important to kind of paint their their.

trip and a really vivid light.

There was a lot in front of these people.

They were really exciting time in their lives.

Um, obviously to, to just, just pretty people, you know, but they were also, they're adventurous.

They, I mean, gosh, at that age to make that kind of trip and that kind of commitment, that's a lot, man.

That's a really, that's a really steep challenge to, to take on.

And they did it.

And, um,