Jacob Sathor

Um, yeah, it's just, it's just really help me understand the timeline between, okay.

She went to the police at this point.

When did they actually connect Derek Sam to Ann's case?

Which, in relation to Debbie going to the police, that's a couple years before then.

Right, she would have gone to the police a couple years after they made the connection.

So it's reasonable to believe that if that confirmation bias was a thing, it would have existed at that point in time.

100%, yeah.

You definitely have a you you I've picked up on some of the habits that you have to kind of insulate yourself a little bit.

You definitely announce your arrival, your your hellos and not knocks, you know, that everybody know.

OK, Ryan's walking up to a door, you know, but it definitely even even the ones that have said no to you.

I mean, you had one in this episode that we were able to hear a little bit of the back and forth when she did say no.

Even then, it wasn't a reaction to you.

It was a reaction to the circumstance.

It was a reaction to the case itself.

Um, so it, it definitely seems at least you may be walking into sketchy situations, but it seems like everybody's at least not wanting to kill you right off the bat.

You know, like they're, they're willing to talk, right.

What are you looking for?

You know, um, with this one, I think the guy that we were, you were able to talk to while it did, uh,

You do have some of those unfortunate things, like with his brain injury and his inability to remember a whole lot.

It was really interesting to hear from someone that was in Derek's orbit around that time that wasn't as so invested in him personally as Mia was, obviously.