Jacob Ward
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first heard Feb 2025
last heard Jul 2025
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where you bury them however you can, both of which the government says are monopolistic practices, that you can't do that in a fair playing field.
Now,
Of course, Zuckerberg and his team are arguing the opposite.
They're basically saying, you know, we're in a desperate competition every day with a bunch of other people right now.
They point, for instance, to the predominance of video at the moment and the fact that TikTok is now such a big competitor for them in the video space.
They point out to the fact that when TikTok was briefly banned by the Trump administration, that their user numbers went through the roofs.
Clearly, they say, a moving of users.
you know, a shifting of competition away from the, you know, users of TikTok coming over to Facebook saying, you know, this is, a competition is alive and well.
We do not have a monopoly.
The difficult though, the difficulty thing
difficult thing is, you know, over and over again, they are going to be using Zuckerberg's words against him.
Here's another email that he wrote at one point.
I'm beginning to wonder whether spinning Instagram out is the only structure that will accomplish a number of important goals, he wrote.
As calls to break up the big tech companies grow, there is a non-trivial chance that we will be forced to spin out Instagram and perhaps WhatsApp in the next five to 10 years anyway.
This is one more factor we should consider.
So, you know, back when he bought Instagram in 2012 and back when he bought WhatsApp in 2014 for $19 billion, these, you know, this was an era when there was a huge amount of friendliness toward Instagram.
big tech companies.
You know, we were just coming out of the Arab Spring, which Facebook got an enormous amount of credit for having sort of, you know, facilitated.
And really in a lot of ways, the thought was that, you know, social media was a way to connect the world and push democracy forward.
And the deal that we have heard tech leaders talk about having been broken later during the Biden administration was that they would get a great deal of credit and
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