Jake White

I suppose what I'm saying to you is that it depends which cap you wear, but I do think that don't ever kill the goose that lays the golden egg, Bernard, because the reality is the game in your country is the one that will sustain the national team.

Well, you know, Neil, I know you say that, but I say that with tongue in cheek.

They're coming back because now they miss their families.

But it's not that.

They've had enough of being overseas.

They've got young families now.

They've made enough money.

So it's not just they're coming back because they... Yes, the Wilco Lows and the Kubis Visas and those guys who came back.

I'm glad for them because they came back, got seen by the crowds.

Yeah, pressure built on the basis they should be Springboks and they've got back into the setup.

I don't think...

having stayed at Sale or Harlequins, that they would have probably got the same love from the audiences in South Africa.

So there is a positive of bringing those players back.

But, I mean, the cycle will just turn.

So Kirtley Orense goes now, but, you know, Ivan van Zyl comes back from Saracen.

So, you know, I just think, imagine, just imagine if...

If the rule was you all got to come back in your next term and you got to come and play.

So, I'll give you an example.

If a guy's got a contract overseas, if he wants to be a Springbok, he has to commit that his next contract will be in South Africa.

Then you can pick him.