Jake White

And I'm telling you that we got 50, it could have been more, you know, and that's what I'm saying.

You don't prepare properly and you have that quality team.

Imagine you're taking, because all that's going to happen, and I don't want to sound again like the prophet of doom, that cycle will continue.

The Cameron Hunnicombs and the Alrick Lowes will leave at the next,

part of the World Cup, their contracts will go and they'll move to go to, you know, and then you'll play against them at Toulouse or you'll play against them at, you know, at La Rochelle.

And so the way we've got to stop that, if you want to, you know, I said I'm quite passionate about it, Bernard.

If you want to put your name down for the European Cup, you must give the European Cup the best players in South Africa to play in it.

That's the way I think.

Probably not, Bernard, because you can never challenge the Iran to the Euro.

But as I said, anything in my day was anything, Bernard.

It wasn't Euro or France.

It was anything to be a Springbok.

That's how I grew up.

And I mean, in your day, and I say it often to players your time in South Africa,

If you didn't play well for Leinster, you didn't play for Ireland.

Yeah.

So you're almost indebted to Leinster for getting you the Irish international team, you know?

And you would do anything in your powers to play well for Leinster.

You'd strap your ankle if it was sore.

You'd call the doctor if you had a niggle.