Jamar Jones

I quickly learned, hey, there's other ways to hire.

You don't necessarily need to have people right there in the big fancy office and all that stuff.

You can have great talent from all over the place.

So that's definitely some golden nuggets for people.

As you're growing and scaling, who was your first actual hire then?

So you had 10 volunteers.

Who was the first person you hired?

Was that luck?

Was that a little bit of luck, hustle, and grit?

And you said 2020 is when it really boomed for your company.

What do you feel like was that turning point of people reaching out?

Yeah, name sounds familiar, yeah.

What were you thinking after that?

We found a business bank account.

Oh my God, there's so much to unpack there.

And when you were first working with the influencer that you wanted to have be a mentor, you did that for free, right?

Those Saturdays?

That's amazing.

Please rewind that, that story that she just told, because first you got to present value to people.

People oftentimes, because I have this knack of being able to change my circle again and again, and to meet influential people and to be connected.