Jameela Jamil

There's a cultural nap.

For fuck's sake.

What are we doing not living in Spain?

The shops are closed.

I'm so grateful that I was exposed to that at such a young age because I always knew that that was my metric to get back to.

I tried Western hyper-capitalist culture for a bit because I kept on being told, you'll find happiness in there.

And then I climbed...

as close to the top as I'm probably going to get, like Time Magazine, 25 Most Influential People, blah, blah, blah, all the covers of Vogue.

I hit all the markers.

I made the money.

I lived in the big house.

I had all the stuff.

And I was like, I'm still suicidal.

And then I remembered, ah, Spain.

it doesn't have to be spain is with me wherever i go now and i really think that that was just a happier simpler time and i'm deeply suspicious of anything that encourages us away from simplicity because humans are fundamentally complex and interesting yeah and brilliant and beautiful enough without all this motherfucking interference jesus christ oh amen

How do you feel now?

About what?

About all of this, like having your life, your identity, your appearance in particular picked apart.

Where are you at with all of this?

Like, especially as like you've gone through a point where I feel as though we were both talking about body image eight years ago during the rise of body positivity.