James Fox

And I was sticking my teeth into it kind of as a side project.

I didn't even report on it because I was just like, whoa, let me check this out.

You know, as I was doing other stuff, making the phenomenon.

And I got to know Alan Sandler.

I went to his house.

I was going after some footage that he actually still has of an incident that happened at Vandenberg in the 1960s of an Atlas rocket and a UFO going around.

And he had that, and he actually made a deal with me to buy it.

I was going to give him like 25 grand.

And then he was going to show it to me.

I had to put the money in an escrow account and he was going to show it to me.

And if I didn't, if I liked it and it was everything he said it was going to be, he kept the money.

I took the thing off.

I go in the last one, I got the money.

And the last minute he pulled the carpet out and he's like, you know, I talked to my lawyers and it's really risky.

And this had the other thing and I'm really well off and I don't need the risk.

I was like, dude, really?

So I've been, you know, anyway, during this time, and I was also interviewing Coleman and Emma Nigger, which I'm going to release all those interviews pretty soon for free on the internet.

And Alan's like, oh, I saw that footage.

And I was driving my car when he told me this.

I was like, excuse me, what?