James Fox

You saw the footage from Vandenberg?

No, no, I saw the landing at Holloman.

I said, okay, hold on a second.

Pull the car over, stop, engine off.

Okay.

You're telling me, Alan Sandler, that you saw the landing at Holloman?

He goes, yeah, I sure did.

It was shown to me by a guy named Paul Shardle at Norton Air Force Base.

Okay, so why is it that Emenager doesn't know that?

That's weird.

So I closed my eyes and I got him to give me the description.

Now he was like, this was clearly not fake.

It was a real film footage of a real flying saucer that really flew and really landed.

And he goes, James, just like in a sci-fi movie, the door opened.

It didn't have any seams or anything.

It just opened up and plop.

And he was like, I think it was, you know, our technology back in the seventies, we have a flying saucer and we set it up.

as like a training video as to what we do if we made contact.

I don't agree with him, and neither does Emmen Hager, neither did Paul Charnel.

But I don't know if he knew, and he was just trying to, like, who knows.