James Gallagher

And I just think that...

has been challenged at times in recent times.

I think the tribunal has been used more than it should be.

I think sometimes a free kick and a 50 metre penalty are the right approach.

Transgressing against the rules of the game can be dealt with in the game sometimes.

I think occasionally in recent years, there has been a rush to use the MRI on tribunal and the players feel that.

Yeah, well, I think it's unfortunately for Zach in this case, it's about using these examples and trying to shine a light on why that raises concerns.

And then for us, I mean, the main way of navigating change is through

collective bargaining agreement and we're about to probably get started on that again later this year.

You know, and right now it feels like, you know, this whole process and system is a priority as part of that conversation.

Now we'll see what we get to and we've got to work through that with all the players.

But, you know, that's the main lever.

But I'd like to think the AFL has a real understanding that the players have got, they're the most important stakeholder in a game.

Um, they've got a vested interest in the game, its health and its growth.

And I think they know that we bring that to those conversations.

I'd like to think that, um, uh, you know, I don't necessarily want to be here agitating for change this morning.

I'd much prefer to be really confident in the system.

Um, and, uh, you know, and, and, and have players that, um, that have that same view.

Yes.

And how much of a concern is that for the game?