James Gill

And that helped us.

We raised about a million in the end, but we haven't needed to go back into the venture kind of mindset and go out and raise more money for a long time now.

We've been very focused on building a company, building a product that genuinely makes money and charging customers for it.

And if we're doing what our customers want, they'll pay us.

And that keeps us very focused on building the right stuff for them.

We've got about a thousand now, and it's getting more and more every month, which is what we like.

That's good.

It's not quite Johnny Ives' white room.

And the AirPods, right?

And the AirPods.

Okay.

We're with about 10 people at the moment.

Um, and yeah, we're quite excited.

Like we, we don't really have anyone on marketing at the moment.

So like the next, the next hires are going to be more, um, more in like growth roles.

So, so we can, cause we're as a team, we're a very, very product focused, uh, bunch of people.

And, um, we love building a great product and that's, that's how we've grown to date.

You know, we've tried to build the best product we can.

and build something that customers love and something they love so much that they'll then go and tell their friends about.

I think that's where you've got to start.