James Rogers

And we've gotten totally disconnected with that.

So I'm optimistic about this future where we actually are able to, people are starting to feed each other

Again, people are, you know, you're growing tomatoes, you're growing carrots.

You know, we have the opportunity to trade those with each other because that can actually happen at a smaller scale if you're able to match the supply and demand.

And so that's one of the things that we're talking about a lot.

How do we help small producers, community production in the United States where we can actually empower producers?

people to grow their own food, trade it with each other so that they're able to, to feed each other, feed communities and not be so dependent on this monolith where we're growing food halfway around the world.

Yeah.

So when we started the business, uh, it, we were, I think we were in a different, we were different era.

We started the business in 2011, 2012.

Sure.

Social media was not what it is today.

And I've experienced, you are just vulnerable to a different set of attack vectors in the modern era.

And if I could go back and talk to myself five years ago, it would have been to acknowledge, hey, we're in a different era now in terms of where the vulnerability can come from.

Yeah.

On my list never would have been someone's going to say that Bill Gates owns your company and it's part of a global depopulation agenda.

That would not have been on my list.

You're like, make a list of 1,000 things.

Very hard to predict.

It would now.