Jamie Laing

Did you feel... During that time, though, because you were playing... Did you feel like an outsider?

When you were looking at the ducks and you were seeing the ducks and you thought, what an amazing life there.

Did you feel...

uncomfortable in yourself.

Nice.

Here we go.

And that's how I went to school.

That's a recipe for a disaster.

And it should be normal.

Well, should it?

Well, yes, because what you're doing is you're doing what we should all be doing, is standing out rather than fitting in.

And that's the most, and we spend all of our lives, I don't know why we do it, trying to fit in the whole time, especially when younger.

I try to do it.

You try to do it.

We all try to do it.

And actually, why fit in when we're born to stand out?

I wish you could have said that.

I know.

But do you know what's amazing is that even though you had this embarrassment and this tough time and what was going on, but then you start learning to sing and play the piano.

And those little moments lead you into what you're doing now.