Jamie Laing
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Yeah, and I remember Ben saying it to me, and he was like... And I was like, shut up.
You're still telling people.
I was like, no, that's not true.
And he... But it was the first time ever he was, like, totally on the back foot.
He was totally on the back foot.
Because you guys were friends and then you started hooking up.
Because McFadden, you and McFadden had...
Because you felt like you needed that.
It was just like... You didn't have to report to anyone?
I know it's a long time ago, but when you go through a divorce, right?
Yeah.
And it's public.
It's really embarrassing.
Just explain that to me.
In your book, right, you say that even on the wedding day, you felt like this wasn't quite right.
It's amazing.
He doesn't give a shit.
But also I think it's like, it's such a good point, right?
For like people listening, which is where when you, when you're stuck in that, like, it's like a, it's like a storm in a teacup.
You think it's everything.