Jamie Laing

It doesn't make as much sense either.

What you're saying is that the people who had better connections with family and friends are the ones who lived a better, healthier, fuller, happier life.

Yep.

But that's not what we're all driving towards, really, in life, it feels like.

What we're striving towards is finding a purpose, being part of a business, making money, all these things.

So being physically healthy and being more connected with people makes us live these fuller lives.

But then we, I suppose at the moment we have this problem with disconnection.

Yes.

Because we're all staring at our phones the whole time.

We're all FaceTiming rather than meeting up.

We're scrolling and liking social media rather than liking ourselves, right?

Yeah.

And that is causing a huge disconnection.

But if we have the study and we know that what causes and creates happiness is bringing people together because we're meant to live in a tribe, why are we doing the opposite?

So it's not a badge of achievement.

We're striving to get these badge of achievements to almost be validated.

Because I think, if I'm being honest about myself, I think I probably fall into that trap, right?

Yeah, me too.

You know, I like LinkedIn because I can post stuff about what I've achieved.

Yeah, exactly.