Jan Malcolm

Well, you know, when I said there are so many lessons we need to learn or we must learn, I think, from what we've just been through, there's a lot to unpack in that question of how does the medical care system and public health

Well, you know, when I said there are so many lessons we need to learn or we must learn, I think, from what we've just been through, there's a lot to unpack in that question of how does the medical care system and public health

um best interact um you know and i think there's a lot of specific experiences we had through covid that uh that can help us um deepen that understanding i you know quite honestly i think when it came to particular things about the pandemic response our respective roles were not clear Who should do what? Who is in the best position to stand up all that testing and do the mass vacs?

um best interact um you know and i think there's a lot of specific experiences we had through covid that uh that can help us um deepen that understanding i you know quite honestly i think when it came to particular things about the pandemic response our respective roles were not clear Who should do what? Who is in the best position to stand up all that testing and do the mass vacs?

And, you know, are those the things we typically lean on healthcare for? But healthcare didn't have the capacity to do it, nor, you know, in some respects, did they have the incentives to do it? Crazy as that sounds. So, but we haven't built a public health system to be that safety net when it comes to the delivery of some of those services. So should we?

And, you know, are those the things we typically lean on healthcare for? But healthcare didn't have the capacity to do it, nor, you know, in some respects, did they have the incentives to do it? Crazy as that sounds. So, but we haven't built a public health system to be that safety net when it comes to the delivery of some of those services. So should we?

You know, and how do we kind of put some surge capacity back into the public health system and into the healthcare system when that's systematically been squeezed out over years and years and years of... of resource constraints and short workforce and all the rest. I think we absolutely learned how interdependent we are on each other.

You know, and how do we kind of put some surge capacity back into the public health system and into the healthcare system when that's systematically been squeezed out over years and years and years of... of resource constraints and short workforce and all the rest. I think we absolutely learned how interdependent we are on each other.

I mean, healthcare could not succeed unless public health could succeed in trying to keep as many people from getting sick as possible and to get the the preventive measures in place. Politically, we absolutely needed the healthcare system's support to say, we have got to do some of these things at the community level to try to restrict the spread because we can't handle

I mean, healthcare could not succeed unless public health could succeed in trying to keep as many people from getting sick as possible and to get the the preventive measures in place. Politically, we absolutely needed the healthcare system's support to say, we have got to do some of these things at the community level to try to restrict the spread because we can't handle

this surge in volume if we just let this thing rip through the society. Certainly, we couldn't succeed in keeping the public healthy if healthcare didn't have the capacity to take care of the people that inevitably were going to end up needing Needing acute care.

this surge in volume if we just let this thing rip through the society. Certainly, we couldn't succeed in keeping the public healthy if healthcare didn't have the capacity to take care of the people that inevitably were going to end up needing Needing acute care.

So I mean, to me, this was a wake up call that we better have some deep conversations about what our respective roles are, how we can best support each other. where we need to beef up the resources, because I think we'd be naive at best to think that this was only a once-in-a-hundred-year thing. Correct. No way. We know.

So I mean, to me, this was a wake up call that we better have some deep conversations about what our respective roles are, how we can best support each other. where we need to beef up the resources, because I think we'd be naive at best to think that this was only a once-in-a-hundred-year thing. Correct. No way. We know.

I mean, the virologists know how much is sort of out there, able to do what COVID did at any given time, just given the globalization of of the economy, of the world. It's a much smaller world than it was in 1918. And climate change is absolutely a driver of what we're seeing with viruses. So we got to be more ready. And I think that takes a deeper conversation about

I mean, the virologists know how much is sort of out there, able to do what COVID did at any given time, just given the globalization of of the economy, of the world. It's a much smaller world than it was in 1918. And climate change is absolutely a driver of what we're seeing with viruses. So we got to be more ready. And I think that takes a deeper conversation about

what went well, what didn't go well, where did we kind of spend time and lose time trying to negotiate who should do what and figure that out and then support each other. Healthcare needs to show up for public health.

what went well, what didn't go well, where did we kind of spend time and lose time trying to negotiate who should do what and figure that out and then support each other. Healthcare needs to show up for public health.

to say, you know, we need public health to be strong and we need them to have resources and we need them to have authority and we need, you know, they need to see the degree to which our capacity in public health is necessary for them and vice versa. I mean, I think we should be like seriously kind of really pretty concerned about what we've just seen about the fragility of the healthcare system

to say, you know, we need public health to be strong and we need them to have resources and we need them to have authority and we need, you know, they need to see the degree to which our capacity in public health is necessary for them and vice versa. I mean, I think we should be like seriously kind of really pretty concerned about what we've just seen about the fragility of the healthcare system