Jared Kushner

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Worked very closely on that with Van Jones and Jessica Jackson, who also gave me a lot of help on the left.

And it was an amazing thing.

Had a great team too.

The answer is yes, and the answer is no.

So I made some incredible friends, lifelong friends, through my time in Washington.

But the way I think about it from politics, and I think in geopolitics as well, is I would say that politicians really don't have friends, politicians have interests.

And as long as you kind of follow that rule, you should be able to know how to rate where your relationship with a given person falls in the spectrum.

But I do think I was the exception.

I did make some tremendous friends.

And

Again, I'd go back to what I said about negotiation where when you're in a situation where there's really nothing in it for any of you personally, but you're in a foxhole together and nobody in Washington can get anything done by themselves.

You have people coming from all different backgrounds, all different experiences, all different geographies coming together.

agreeing on an objective, creating a plan, and then every day rowing together in order to get it done, it's a beautiful thing.

And you really learn what people are about.

And so when you go through an experience like that, you learn who's in it for themselves, you learn who's in it for the cause.

And for every thing you read about in the press of a fight I had with somebody because we were at odds, I have about 100 people who have become lifelong friends because I respect the way

That when we were under fire together, they got better, they were competent, and they were there to serve for the right reason.

And so I guess the answer is yes, it is possible.

You have to be careful because there are a lot of mercurial people there.