Jared Kushner

I always say the politicians are like gladiators.

Right.

I didn't have as much respect for politicians till I got there.

But if you think about it, everyone who's got a congressional seat or a Senate seat, there's 25 people back at home who want their job, who think they're smarter than them, who are trying to backstab them.

And so I always say that the political dynamic, it's like...

In the private sector, you're standing on flat ground.

You choose which fights you take on, when you take them on, how you fight them.

In politics, it's like you're standing on a ball.

And what you have to realize is that there's maybe like 10 things that you have to do, but there's a potential cost to taking on each one that might destabilize you.

You fall off the ball, and then you lose your opportunity to pursue those.

You have to always be

kind of marking everything to market and going through your calculations to make sure you can accomplish what you want to without falling off the ball and losing your opportunity to make a difference.

Just doing good by others, I feel like, is a... I'd like to say that's true, Lex.

I think...

It's just way more complicated.

I mean, you look what happened this week with Kevin McCarthy, right?

He did what he thought was morally right.

He thought, you know, he did a bipartisan deal.

He was told that, you know, they would have his back.

And then the moment things got tough, they cut him loose.