Jason Donovan

Because that work ethic within you, just keep going, keep going, keep going.

And again, that's exactly what I was talking about, saying no.

But you've got to understand the context of the decision to go into Joseph was the right decision.

Lloyd Webber, you know, myself, Tim Rice, you know, what –

The currency of theatre and popular culture was running side by side at that point in the sense of, you know, Andrew had just done Phantom, he'd just done Cats, you know.

These were big pop stars.

Huge.

Not just songwriters and legends, you know, as they are now, but, you know, big pop stars.

A bit like Stockake and Waterman, you join forces with these people and it's sort of the perfect storm.

Really?

Yeah, and Joseph for me was that moment, you know.

And ironically, not many pop stars.

I couldn't think Harry Styles would put on a loincloth and a hat

And a Technicoloured coat and do eight shows a week.

But because I came from an acting background, I'd done musicals.

It felt like the right decision.

And it felt different.

Yeah, and it felt different.

Also a way of reinventing what I was doing.

And it was the right move.