Jason Donovan

And you'll find this with your kids.

You'll find you're going to have to make some decisions that there's no real rule book on.

Um, you know, maybe management wise, maybe we could have thought a little bit more about it, but I found myself in the high court in this moment and I had to go through with it and for the right intentions.

And maybe in a way, sorry, just to, just to say, maybe in a way, as I found along that journey, I was actually speaking up for those people that didn't want to be outed, but

That wanted to be who they wanted to be.

You don't have to be told you have to be something just because... No, and do you know what is so interesting?

Well, I mean, you've got to go back a little bit.

I never drunk until I was in my 30s at all.

Did you not?

No, no, no.

I didn't touch alcohol until my 30s because I watched my dad and I thought he was a fucking dick, you know, and because he was my dad and I only lived with him and, you know, dad, you know, didn't smoke weed or do anything like that.

But I smoked weed from a young age and I always thought, oh,

late teens, you know, and I always thought I'd rather walk into a room full of people stoned than I would a bunch of pissheads, basically, and particularly as I got famous.

You know, there's nothing worse than drunk people.

It's just a fucking...

It's just a nightmare.

And I know a lot of people say, you know, smoking weed doesn't necessarily move on to class A. Well, it did for me.

Did it?

Yeah.

Sorry.