Jason Feifer

So... Well, if we rewind to the times in which we were having kids nine years ago and five and a half years ago, I, in both cases, was fully employed. Today, I have a job. A W-2 employee. if not 100% of my income, 90% of my income. That's not the case now. Now, I still have a W-2, but I also have a whole lot of entrepreneurial pursuits and make more outside than inside the company.

So... Well, if we rewind to the times in which we were having kids nine years ago and five and a half years ago, I, in both cases, was fully employed. Today, I have a job. A W-2 employee. if not 100% of my income, 90% of my income. That's not the case now. Now, I still have a W-2, but I also have a whole lot of entrepreneurial pursuits and make more outside than inside the company.

So... Well, if we rewind to the times in which we were having kids nine years ago and five and a half years ago, I, in both cases, was fully employed. Today, I have a job. A W-2 employee. if not 100% of my income, 90% of my income. That's not the case now. Now, I still have a W-2, but I also have a whole lot of entrepreneurial pursuits and make more outside than inside the company.

But back then, it was just that. So I had just a regular paternity leave of, I can't remember how much it was. It wasn't that much, a couple of weeks. And then my wife, Jen, is... She is self-employed, but as a freelancer. So she's really like eating what she kills. It's just like project to project to project to project. And it was interesting. Jen had more thoughts and feelings on this.

But back then, it was just that. So I had just a regular paternity leave of, I can't remember how much it was. It wasn't that much, a couple of weeks. And then my wife, Jen, is... She is self-employed, but as a freelancer. So she's really like eating what she kills. It's just like project to project to project to project. And it was interesting. Jen had more thoughts and feelings on this.

But back then, it was just that. So I had just a regular paternity leave of, I can't remember how much it was. It wasn't that much, a couple of weeks. And then my wife, Jen, is... She is self-employed, but as a freelancer. So she's really like eating what she kills. It's just like project to project to project to project. And it was interesting. Jen had more thoughts and feelings on this.

And her thoughts and feelings were that for her, work is this dual source of purpose and deep anxiety. Right. And she is always thinking about... I mean, she drives a lot of value... from her work, and she loves her work, and it's a place of passion for her. But also, she's always thinking about what's coming next, and will this project lead to another project? Am I at the end of my career?

And her thoughts and feelings were that for her, work is this dual source of purpose and deep anxiety. Right. And she is always thinking about... I mean, she drives a lot of value... from her work, and she loves her work, and it's a place of passion for her. But also, she's always thinking about what's coming next, and will this project lead to another project? Am I at the end of my career?

And her thoughts and feelings were that for her, work is this dual source of purpose and deep anxiety. Right. And she is always thinking about... I mean, she drives a lot of value... from her work, and she loves her work, and it's a place of passion for her. But also, she's always thinking about what's coming next, and will this project lead to another project? Am I at the end of my career?

Jen's always thinking this way. She'll write a book, and then it'll be like, ugh, is this the last book that I ever get to write? Is this the last article that I ever get to write? So there's a lot of anxiety. So she... saw maternity leave as a opportunity to take a break from that, to just say, I have another thing to focus on, a bigger, like kind of weightier, I don't know, whatever.

Jen's always thinking this way. She'll write a book, and then it'll be like, ugh, is this the last book that I ever get to write? Is this the last article that I ever get to write? So there's a lot of anxiety. So she... saw maternity leave as a opportunity to take a break from that, to just say, I have another thing to focus on, a bigger, like kind of weightier, I don't know, whatever.

Jen's always thinking this way. She'll write a book, and then it'll be like, ugh, is this the last book that I ever get to write? Is this the last article that I ever get to write? So there's a lot of anxiety. So she... saw maternity leave as a opportunity to take a break from that, to just say, I have another thing to focus on, a bigger, like kind of weightier, I don't know, whatever.

It's a more important thing. It's an actual human being. Yeah, it's an actual human being. So she was really hoping that that project of taking a break and just focusing on raising a child could eliminate some of the anxiety that she was feeling about work and just give her a break from it.

It's a more important thing. It's an actual human being. Yeah, it's an actual human being. So she was really hoping that that project of taking a break and just focusing on raising a child could eliminate some of the anxiety that she was feeling about work and just give her a break from it.

It's a more important thing. It's an actual human being. Yeah, it's an actual human being. So she was really hoping that that project of taking a break and just focusing on raising a child could eliminate some of the anxiety that she was feeling about work and just give her a break from it.

And I think that it did in the actual break, the actual few weeks that she gave herself for quote-unquote maternity leave, it certainly did not in the long run. She still has all that work anxiety even though we have our children. But she really loved that and I think wanted to find... a moment to recalibrate from it.

And I think that it did in the actual break, the actual few weeks that she gave herself for quote-unquote maternity leave, it certainly did not in the long run. She still has all that work anxiety even though we have our children. But she really loved that and I think wanted to find... a moment to recalibrate from it.

And I think that it did in the actual break, the actual few weeks that she gave herself for quote-unquote maternity leave, it certainly did not in the long run. She still has all that work anxiety even though we have our children. But she really loved that and I think wanted to find... a moment to recalibrate from it.

Me, on the other hand, honestly, what I did is that I used my paternity leave both times to just do other work projects. I remember I was working on a podcast five and a half years ago, a solo podcast project. And I spent basically my entire paternity leave at home when I was not helping out with the baby, just working on that thing because I don't really know how to stop.

Me, on the other hand, honestly, what I did is that I used my paternity leave both times to just do other work projects. I remember I was working on a podcast five and a half years ago, a solo podcast project. And I spent basically my entire paternity leave at home when I was not helping out with the baby, just working on that thing because I don't really know how to stop.