Jay Campbell
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395 appearances
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2 series
first heard Apr 2025
last heard Apr 2025
Jay Campbell’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.
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Yeah, no, it's a great question. I mean, let me give you a little context, too, because I remember going to A4M in 2014, and that was when TaylorMade had their first ever booth. And TaylorMade was the big compound pharmacy from Prestonville or Nicholsville, one of those places in Kentucky. And I just remember it was my first year there.
Actually, it was my second year there because I started in 2013. So like I said, this will be my 13th year in a row there. But it was the second year that I went. And I was with all these famous doctors. And the owner of Power Pharmacy, who's a good friend of mine, Sean Norian.
And we're looking at this tailor-made booth and they've got all those peptides, those novel peptides that you were talking about. Like nobody even knew what they were, right? Like they had probably a list of 40 peptides in their booth. And again, this is in 2014. And like you said, maybe eight to 10 were known.
And even the ones that were known were like niche people like us, you know, like fringe fuckers like us that knew about peptides and SARs. And so I remember just looking at these guys thinking, holy shit, they got the biggest balls. Because there was this giant medical conference with all these quote unquote illegal gray market peptides. And they had some SARMs out there too.
And I was just like, wow, they're going to get shut down. And I just remember talking to all those doctors thinking, man, this is going to be their last hurrah. Fast forward nine years or eight years later. And they blew up the world and they changed the medical and the clinical space because they were the ones that brought the fucking peptides to the mainstream.
But to your question, peptides now is really, truly evolved. And what I mean by that is, is like you were saying, is like you've got all these amazing nootropic peptides. You've got these, you know, the real rage now is obviously mitochondrial optimizing or mitochondrial stimulating peptides. You've got SS31 peptides. You got MOTC. You've even got stuff that's coming.
You've got the memetics like SLU, PP-332, which is a very powerful mitochondrial optimizer. Obviously, you've got urolithin A, which is a small molecule. By the way, sloop is a small molecule too, but they're sold as peptides. So it's just getting really, really complex because it's harder for people, I think, to understand like,
How do I stack a GH agonist peptide with a mitochondrial optimizing peptide? Or, you know, when do I use this peptide versus this peptide? And Dylan, you know, what's happening is like, there's so much information and a lot of, again, the signal to noise ratio is the noise is way higher than the signal.
There's too many, you know, complete idiots, you know, moms, housewives, dads who've used peptides for six months, claiming they're experts, coaching, you know, nothing. And they know nothing. Like you said, I mean, it's like half of the internet now, but most people, because of the overwhelm,
They hear about peptides from their aunt's brother's uncle's sister's cousin and they want to use them and they start reading about them. And maybe they find my book or maybe they find Seed's book or there's some other books that are on Amazon now that are pretty good. And they start reading them and then they just get this mindset of like, I want to do all. I want to do the brain. I want to heal.
I want to get rid of my fat belly. you know, I want a bigger dick. I mean, it's just, it's nonstop how insane it is. And it's like, these people want to use 10 to 11 peptides at once, dude. I know for 10 to 10 or 11 different things. And it's like, no man.
And so like, you know, my message, my mission today is like, when somebody asked me, first off, I don't do any individual one-on-one coaching anymore because I just, it's a time waste. You know what I mean? Everything is scalable for me, but The reality is if they email me and it's a really good question, I'm going to respond to them.
I mean, like you, I get a lot of messages, but most people today are just so caught up in the overwhelm that they don't really even know where to start. And it's the same shit of where to start when you were doing this in 2011 and I was doing this in 2013. And it's like, first off, what do your labs tell you, right? Like, do you have a hormonal deficiency?
If you have a hormonal deficiency, I don't give a fuck what you do from a peptide SARM or fucking small molecule standpoint. You're not going to get the same results as somebody who's hormonally optimized. So I'm always telling people, like, start with the basics. You know, are you living insulin controlled?
You know, are you regulating your carbohydrate consumption and remaining metabolically flexible? Are you lifting weights and doing cardiovascular exercise? Are you sleeping six to seven hours a night, right? Like, those are all the foundational principles. And if people are not doing that, Who gives a shit what you and I tell them about SARMs or peptides or fucking hormones?
They're not going to get any kind of results. You've got to have the basics dialed in. And I just think that because there's so many amateurs, bro, telling people about peptides who don't even know anything about them other than what they regurgitate or hear from people like me and you.
They literally think they're magic bullets and they think they can just start taking these things willy nilly and get results. And none of them ever do. And then they come out into the marketplace and they say, Jay Campbell's a scammer or Dylan McGill is a scammer or blah, blah, blah is a scammer. And it's like, dude, you don't even have the basics. And so that to me is the problem.
Whereas 15 years ago, when you and I first started doing this, you didn't have this problem because people listened. They followed regular instructions. They exercised. They trained. They ate right. They slept right. They weren't listening to Instagram or fucking Andrew Huberman or, like you said, some TikTok scammer.
And it was just an easier place to be for people to learn and pick up knowledge from smart people. And now, again, dude, you said it earlier, like the average 20-year-old kid, man or woman, how do they know where to get their information, dude?
It's so hard for young people to find real information. And so it's like, Guys like you and me, we have to continue to put our videos out. We have to continue to educate. And all we can do is just hope that the smart people, because again, the dumb people won't find us. They're not going to get there. They're going to break down before they get there.
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