Jay Dyer
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first heard Jul 2026
last heard 13 Jul
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Not indicting the individuals, but the groups, the denominations, they're very easily bought off.
For example, very wealthy families in the West about 100 years ago were able to buy off many of the mainline Protestant denominations and turn them into effectually NGOs.
Just one example, the Rockefellers, and they're not the only family, but they're one of the families that invested very heavily in not just the UN, but also the World Council of Churches to create a sort of a supra-international version of the UN that would be for religions.
And they were very explicit in their biographies about how this was to basically make it kind of an NGO.
So make Christianity into kind of a form of soft power for American interests, really oligarchical interests.
and that's one of the one of the weak points i would say of protestant theology evangelical theology is that it's very susceptible to that
not to say that the roman cali church or even amongst the orthodox church there aren't people that are susceptible to the same types of subversion but i think it's a lot more difficult when you have an ancient historic type of church that has certain structural structural integrity and normativity to it right that you know billy bob strip mall church right doesn't have but
There's also, like...
If you have the attitude of a standard sort of Protestant evangelical person, there's nothing in history settled because every generation kind of has to reinvent the wheel.
They have to redo all the same controversies and crises all over again because they could have all been wrong.
Nothing is settled, right?
Because for Protestant evangelical Christianity, the Bible and the apostles are kind of like the end.
know that a lot of protestants would say well we like athanasius we like you know saint augustine or whoever but when you actually go and read them they have bishops they have relics they have the eucharist they have all these elements that don't align with the protestant reformation so i was an avid calvinist i was super into john calvin and all that stuff when i was a younger guy and it was
It was unsettling to read these guys and realize, well, they don't teach Calvinism, so what am I going to do here?
Either not be a Christian or I can align myself with whatever the first thousand years of Christianity actually is.
And I say the first thousand years, too, because—
Catholics and Orthodox share that first thousand years.
So we both have that in common.
So I think that narrows it down.
It's either going to be Roman Catholicism or it's going to be Orthodoxy.
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