Jeffrey Goldberg

And so are they getting the message that, oh,

It turns out that America has a hard time mustering the will and capacity to secure and dominate a narrow body of water.

We happen to have a narrow body of water that's really important to us.

And, you know, you don't want to come out of this Iran war with China thinking, oh,

Donald Trump is never going to defend Taiwan if we launch an invasion across the Strait of Taiwan.

I mean, that's not coming this year.

Nobody knows, obviously.

But we know generally that the intention on the Chinese long term is to seize Taiwan.

So we have now opened up a Pandora's box of challenges that were not there when we simply were monitoring the situation as it were.

I'm just wondering – I wrote that in 2002.

Was that in 2002?

No, no, no.

I wrote – I mean I've been saying the same thing.

Oh, similar point.

By the way, one of the things that you learn about journalism as you get older is that –

Not to make too much of it, but I've been warning in my writing, in my reporting, before I became management.

I've been warning since the late 1990s about two threats to stability, peace, and happiness in the future of the Middle East.

One is the rise of capitalism.

terrorist Muslim fundamentalism.

I mean, I lived in 1999.