Jeffrey Goldberg

They're nerdy and they want to have serious conversations about national security priorities.

And that's what you're not getting from the secretary of defense.

And so it's as if they're – and we don't hear from the acting national security advisor, Marco Rubio, very much, as I'm sure you've noticed.

No, I mean, he's very careful, because I think Marco Rubio is the smart one in the pairing here in a lot of ways.

He's very careful not to thump his chest and say sorts of things that will get you into trouble later.

But no, I mean, Pete Hegseth is empowered.

obviously audience of one, Donald Trump likes him and likes his performance.

And I use the word performance very advisedly.

And you, you know, if you go back a year, it is true that he did something in the signal gate, the so-called signal gate controversy that would have gotten any other military leader or civilian in the Pentagon court-martialed, indicted, uh,

disciplined, fired.

And the military, our armed forces, which are the best in the world, run on order, discipline, responsibility, and character.

And so when you do something that a private in the army would be punished for doing, you've got to take some responsibility.

That's the only thing that I hear people argue about today on this front, which is like, it was a bad morale moment

when this happened because Hegseth lashed out rather than saying, yeah, I made a mistake.

When I make a mistake, I take responsibility for it and I learn from the mistake.

Until he gets another TV show.

Thank you.

What are you wearing?

I mean, it is a party.

I missed that episode.