Jennifer (Jen) Cohen

Of course, yes, of course.

Was it passed down from their parents' anxiety or unknown anxiety or sadness?

That's so true, right?

The pendulum swings the other direction for sure.

So he then, tell us the story about him and his cancer then because years later, yeah.

Wow.

The fact that it was descended from his kid.

So then he basically healed himself.

So basically, there's a huge, like you were saying, a huge spiritual component to the

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