Jenny Holland

And now, as we said a couple of weeks ago, if the SSPX is serious about continuing its work, it will need to consecrate new bishops.

And what's the issue here?

To do this, they need to do this, not only in...

of canon law, because they're doing this explicitly without the consent of the Vatican's authorization process, which is necessary for the consecration.

But that is also a schismatic act, right?

And if a bishop consecrates, basically puts his hand on a priest and makes another bishop without the Vatican's permission, approval, delegated, then...

then that as being a schismatic act automatically incurs excommunication.

So if that's the correct synthesis of what you're describing, this is a memento development framework, a really momentous development.

It's something that traditionalists have waited.

Why is this so momentous?

Because the SSPX,

the society of Pope St.

Pius X is really the beating heart of the traditionalist movement.

And all of the other priestly societies that exist, both those in communion with Rome and also those not in communion with Rome, they're basically satellites of the SSPX because it is the largest organization in terms of priests right across the world that refuse to accept the Second Vatican Council and insist only on

the Old Mass.

Is that correct?

It's not just the FBI.

This is why you're going to come back later on the show and announce.

In fact, if only you were that easy, Frank Walker, if only you were that easy, that it's like things like the FBI that's opposed to the traditionalists.

It's actually the movements.