Jenny Kleeman
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443 appearances
8 recordings
5 series
first heard Mar 2025
last heard 15 Jul
Jenny Kleeman’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.
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So he tried to do this in these two embryos and he failed.
According to his own data, he failed.
So he caused unknown changes in both of the embryos and he knew this.
And yet he still allowed both embryos to be implanted into Lulu and Nana's mother and for Lulu and Nana to be born together.
What most people understand is he gave these twins immunity to HIV, but he didn't.
And also, this was not a disease like Huntington's.
They weren't carriers of a genetic abnormality that needed to be created.
He was giving them or trying to give them a protection against a disease that they might contract because they were living, sharing a household with someone who was HIV positive.
So this is not a necessary life-saving procedure by any stretch of the imagination.
Yeah, I mean, he was really experimenting with human life, suturing together different bits of genetic code and hoping for the best.
Even when he knew that what he had tried to do had failed, he still wanted to see the outcome.
And nobody knows what's happened to them.
There's a lot of secrecy about it.
He hasn't published any information.
The Chinese government doesn't want people to know.
So the fate of Lulu and Nana is a complete mystery.
Cathy is seeking to target monogenic conditions, so conditions where there is one gene...
that you can target and change.
And for those changes to be made very early on so that the growing embryo does not have this condition and the baby doesn't have it.
And that's different from what He Zhenghui was doing.
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