Jermain Defoe

Yeah, but like, nah, just fun days, man.

Wow.

It's something like, you know when you're playing, you don't really think about managing.

You're so focused on playing the next game.

I've got ages.

I don't need to think about.

And then since I've been into the academy at Tottenham and you're doing your badges and you're sort of like, you're learning every day and you're seeing players that you've played with become managers, whether they're successful or not.

And you think, you know what?

I fancy that.

Even if you just give it a go, just try.

So at the minute, obviously, I'm completing my badges.

And I think for me as well, because I've played for so long, so it's almost like I've seen both sides.

I know what it's like before when we used to like, I don't know, goal kick and just kick it long or, you know, 4-4-2 or the way it was in that compared to like now how the game's changed completely.

Like you've got goalkeepers that... A lot of times your goalkeeper has more touch than number nine.

So I've seen how the game's evolved and like...

So I just feel just complete your badges and see where it takes you.

I think you probably take a bit from everyone.

In terms of man-manage, I like the way Harry man-managed players and Sam Allardyce.

I loved how ABB was so organised with his sessions.

Eddie Howe, I like the intensity of him.