Jess Ekstrom

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Yeah.

Yeah.

I mean, it's like when you get out of a relationship and you're like, but they look at what they did for my birthday.

And iPhone brings me these memories of all these good times.

And it's like, no, you don't remember all of it or the reason why you left.

And I'm not saying that parenthood is just like that, but both things can be true.

Like this can be hard right now and it can also be fleeting.

And so I think I'm trying to

Like, and that's the same in our career.

Like, yeah, not every day is going to be like butterflies and sunshine at work.

And it can also be the thing that keeps pushing us forward and the thing that we know that we need to keep pursuing.

And so, yeah, the whole I am now I'm very conscious about when I see like someone with a newborn or something like that.

I just am like, how are you?

Like, I'm not telling you anything to do or don't miss it.

Yeah.

I remember when my husband, he like left his job and had a new job lined up and there was like a one month window where he was unemployed, but had his like next job in a month.

And I was literally like, life will never be this good again.