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Jesse Rogerson

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
1647 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

Podcast Appearances

The Last Show with David Cooper
FULL EPISODE: Peek Into An Ancient Wolves' Stomach - January 14, 2026

How do you like dive in to try and, you know, analyze that study or analyze that kind of behavior?

The Last Show with David Cooper
FULL EPISODE: Peek Into An Ancient Wolves' Stomach - January 14, 2026

And you can't really do it with humans because you can't really ethically put humans in in like unsafe situations.

The Last Show with David Cooper
FULL EPISODE: Peek Into An Ancient Wolves' Stomach - January 14, 2026

You can't say let's put a human in an unsafe situation and study what they do.

The Last Show with David Cooper
FULL EPISODE: Peek Into An Ancient Wolves' Stomach - January 14, 2026

Right.

The Last Show with David Cooper
FULL EPISODE: Peek Into An Ancient Wolves' Stomach - January 14, 2026

Right, exactly, right?

The Last Show with David Cooper
FULL EPISODE: Peek Into An Ancient Wolves' Stomach - January 14, 2026

So you wouldn't ethically be allowed to put a chimpanzee in an unsafe situation, but you can watch them climb trees and jump from tree to tree.

The Last Show with David Cooper
FULL EPISODE: Peek Into An Ancient Wolves' Stomach - January 14, 2026

And so that's what they did here is they looked at 100 individual chimpanzees aged 2 to 65 and watched them โ€“

The Last Show with David Cooper
FULL EPISODE: Peek Into An Ancient Wolves' Stomach - January 14, 2026

climbing around and taking the risks of jumping.

The Last Show with David Cooper
FULL EPISODE: Peek Into An Ancient Wolves' Stomach - January 14, 2026

Like sometimes when they're climbing, they do it really methodically and slow.

The Last Show with David Cooper
FULL EPISODE: Peek Into An Ancient Wolves' Stomach - January 14, 2026

And sometimes when they jump from place to place, they'll literally like let go completely and just aim for another branch.

The Last Show with David Cooper
FULL EPISODE: Peek Into An Ancient Wolves' Stomach - January 14, 2026

And they found, what they found is that the youngest ones do the most risky things.

The Last Show with David Cooper
FULL EPISODE: Peek Into An Ancient Wolves' Stomach - January 14, 2026

So what they concluded was that โ€“ so for in humans, it peaks in teenage years.

The Last Show with David Cooper
FULL EPISODE: Peek Into An Ancient Wolves' Stomach - January 14, 2026

That's when we're doing the most riskiest things.

The Last Show with David Cooper
FULL EPISODE: Peek Into An Ancient Wolves' Stomach - January 14, 2026

But in the chimps, it peaks the youngest.

The Last Show with David Cooper
FULL EPISODE: Peek Into An Ancient Wolves' Stomach - January 14, 2026

The youngest ones are doing the most risky stuff, and it slowly goes down over age.

The Last Show with David Cooper
FULL EPISODE: Peek Into An Ancient Wolves' Stomach - January 14, 2026

And they think the reason for that is โ€“

The Last Show with David Cooper
FULL EPISODE: Peek Into An Ancient Wolves' Stomach - January 14, 2026

chimpanzee parents are just less able to, once the chimpanzees get old enough to start climbing on their own, then they just, the parents just sort of lose ability to protect them.

The Last Show with David Cooper
FULL EPISODE: Peek Into An Ancient Wolves' Stomach - January 14, 2026

And so right away they start doing really risky stuff and they slowly learn and get better.

The Last Show with David Cooper
FULL EPISODE: Peek Into An Ancient Wolves' Stomach - January 14, 2026

Whereas in the human world, we like helicopter parent our kids all the way up until teenage.

The Last Show with David Cooper
FULL EPISODE: Peek Into An Ancient Wolves' Stomach - January 14, 2026

And then at the teenage years, they go to high school and they really, the supervision drops way down and they're starting able to just be out in the world by themselves and they start doing stuff.