Jesse Zhang

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452 appearances 1 recordings 1 series first heard Jul 2026 last heard 31 Jul

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So when AGI is here, like it will change people's jobs, but people will stop jobs because you're still going to do things for other humans and whatever.
So I don't really believe that careers will be gone after AGI.
I don't think people are just going to be sitting around.
I'll say one observation, which is like for me, it was definitely a duet.
So early days when we were building the product, right, like the core problem we're solving, again, being back to sales that we talked to a bunch of customers and they're like, yeah, the value we want to get out of what you're building for us is that we can put it in front of customers.
They can have conversations and it's giving them much better experience.
And also it's like, you know, way easier for us operationally, right?
It's like you're saving cost and you're making customers happier.
So that's like the first agent that we built.
And that was like the core agent we worked on for the first year or two years.
And the agent on our end, when we were building it, consisted of a ton of stuff.
Like we would have to write these procedures and we kind of create our own format of procedures.
We call them agent operating procedures that teach the AI how to do things.
We have to write these tools that the procedures can use to access systems and pull APIs and whatever.
And then after that, we need to like create all these tests to make sure that this thing is working well and that you can kind of simulate all these different situations.
And afterwards, once they're in production, like we would manually be reading conversations.
There's like a ton of work that goes into it, even though the core product we're building is itself an agent.
And so what Duet is, is it's kind of a separate agent.
It's like a second agent that's much bigger and much slower, but its job is to do all the tasks I just described.
So now, instead of us having to write these AOPs and write these integrations and tools into their systems and write these tests and monitor the conversations, Duet just does all of that, right?
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