Jessie Stephens
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And in return, the US did things like lift sanctions and stop putting sort of economic punishments on Iran.
Trump withdrew from that agreement, even though Iran was following all the rules.
He withdrew from it himself in 2019.
And now he turns around and he says, Iran, why aren't you following my rules?
Why aren't you stopping this process?
And from Iran's perspective, you got to say they were trying to follow the rules, but then Trump withdrew.
So to answer the question of why other presidents didn't do it, it's because they would have preferred to come to the negotiating table and try and hash it out.
And yeah, that might take a long time, but that was kind of where they were at on it.
Well, one thing I want to make absolutely clear with you, Claire, is that it had nothing to do with the Epstein files.
So just banish that from your mind.
From Trump's perspective, here's what he would say to you.
He would say that there were lots of protests in Iran in January, lots and lots of protests.
People were very unhappy with this murderous dictatorial regime.
Up to 30,000 protesters were killed in these protests.
awful.
The regime itself was exposed as kind of weak because there were lots, thousands of people in the streets saying, we hate you.
We want this to end.
This was a three plus decade dictatorship that
thousands of people were using their bodies to protest against.
So from Trump's perspective, he's like, this seems like a pretty good time to try and get rid of this murderous regime once and for all.