Jessie Stephens

And I'm going to go in while they're weak, while they're down, and try and get rid of them.

That is, I think, what he would say to you.

I think that's a fair kind of paraphrase of how he would justify this action.

The fact that they were in the middle of negotiations over the nuclear weapons, you

Yeah, that's kind of unfortunate, but I think from Trump's perspective, he thought it was strategically the right time.

Yes, it is.

And it's unclear how his base is going to react to it.

You remember Marjorie Taylor Greene?

We talked about her before in the show.

She was kind of a leading QAnon person who helped Trump get elected and then was elected herself to Congress.

She has come out and said that she's disgusted by this.

Lots of sort of MAGA base people have said this is not what they voted for.

In fact, Trump kind of came to power in 2016 saying he was going to end

the forever wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

And in fact, he did take steps to do so.

He even talked about how he thought George W. Bush made a huge mistake all those years ago when he went into Iraq and tried to topple Saddam Hussein and then ended up doing that.

So I think it's really weird.

And he's completely changed his position over the course of these two presidencies.

Look, I think part of it is that he's 79.

He's kind of impatient.