Jimmy Wales

We have to think.

We have to brainstorm.

Like, how do we build trust?

Like, people aren't trusting us.

In fact, it's gotten really bad because we screwed up this whole situation so badly.

And they did a lot of things.

They made a lot of changes at that time.

Like, I mean, at the time, apparently you could rent a place with just an email address.

Crazy.

Anonymously.

So like some rando who can't even be tracked down after the fact is going to get your keys and go and sleep in your house.

Like, oh my God, like that's clearly a stupid idea.

And this isn't about, oh, I mean, I actually think anonymity online is a good thing.

It's, you know, like, but largely that's not somebody sleeping in your house.

Once they're in my bed, I draw the line.

I want to know who you are.

Yeah.

And so now you have to upload your ID and sort of prove your existence and all of that.

And a lot of the, oh, like, you know, indemnity, like insurance.

It's like, yeah, if somebody trashes the place, then everybody's got a policy of like, we're going to make you whole.