Jimmy Wales

We were blocked in Turkey for about three years.

And we fought that in the courts in Turkey until we won at the Supreme Court in Turkey, which I'm quite proud of.

That's actually shocking.

And we didn't compromise one speck on Wikipedia.

We don't censor content to satisfy governments.

And we were very fortunate.

So actually, this is one of the areas.

So a lot of Internet companies have been, some are better than others in various, you know, you get down to the details, they're better or worse.

But, you know, generally, they cave in quite quickly.

Even Elon Musk, proponent of free speech, has caved in to censorship in various places.

Sure.

And I think they thought we would, but we're like, actually, we're principled and no, we're not.

And in fact, what's interesting about our business model, a lot of money from small donors who really believe in Wikipedia, believe in the ideas that I'm putting forward about the fundamental human right to access knowledge and to participate in dialogue and discourse about the facts of the world, our donors would probably punish us quite harshly.

If you changed stuff to go in China, I'm out.

And, you know, it's actually getting to be more complicated because all around the world, we're seeing the rise of more legislation that is, you can tell the people writing it, their mental model is Facebook or Twitter or whatever.

They don't really understand how Wikipedia works.

And so they want to impose duties on the organization to do the content moderation and things like that.

I'm like, well, we don't do that.

Like our community does that.

And in fact, if you forced us to have to do that.